Egypt vs. Indonesia in attitudes

Gene Expression
By Razib Khan
Feb 3, 2011 1:35 AMNov 19, 2019 8:33 PM

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TNR has a post up, Egypt and Indonesia. In it, the author argues that:

At times of unexpected but momentous political change in distant countries, we grasp onto political analogies to help get our bearings. Even if we know they are imperfect, we can’t resist their tempting suggestiveness. But, if we cannot resist them, we can at least choose them thoughtfully. Invoking Iran after the Shah is scary indeed, but dangerously misleading. A different analogy that provides more useful grist for our unsettled analytic mill concerning Egypt is Indonesia and Suharto in the late 1990s.

We can gauge the force of this analogy by looking at a Pew Gobal Attitudes report on Muslim public opinion from December 2010. Egypt and Indonesia are in their set of countries surveyed. Below are a selection of results, with Turkey and Pakistan included in for comparisons. I ignored most of the stuff on Muslim radical movements. Additionally, one has to be cautious about interpreting survey data, as people will interpret questions in relation to their local situation. For example, below you will see that 89 and 46 percent of Indonesians and Pakistanis think that the role of religion in politics is "large." I think empirically we have to conclude that Indonesians and Pakistanis are using the terms somewhat differently, as Indonesia is a much more robustly pluralist regime at this point than Pakistan is. Indonesia is not an officially Islamic state. Pakistan is. Indonesia forthrightly acknowledges its pre-Islamic heritage, and continues to have prominent symbolic roles for non-Muslim cultural forms. The Hindu epics are still popular on the most populous island of Java.

Source: Pew Global Attitudes

Role of Islam in politics is....

LargeSmall

Indonesia8910

Turkey6919

Egypt4849

Pakistan4636

Islam's influence in politics is....

NegativePositive

Indonesia691

Turkey3138

Egypt285

Pakistan669

In struggle between modernizers and fundamentalists....

Identify with... (of those who see struggle)

See struggleModernizersFundamentalists

Indonesia425433

Turkey527411

Egypt312759

Pakistan446128

Make gender segregation in workplace the law....

OpposeFavor

Indonesia5938

Turkey8413

Egypt4454

Pakistan1185

Support for harsh punishments (affirm action)

Stone adulterersWhip & amputate hands of robbersDeath penalty for apostates

Indonesia423630

Turkey16135

Egypt827784

Pakistan828276

Agree that democracy is always preferable to any other kind of government

Indonesia65

Turkey76

Egypt59

Pakistan42

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